Bill O'Reilly and Jeremy Glick
"Man Whose Father Died in Trade Center Signs Anti-War Ad"
SHOW: THE O'REILLY FACTOR (20:29)
February 4, 2003 Tuesday
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SECTION: News; International
LENGTH: 1129 words
HEADLINE: Man Whose Father Died in Trade Center Signs Anti-War Ad
GUESTS: Jeremy Glick
BYLINE: Bill O'Reilly
O'REILLY: In the "Personal Stories" segment tonight, we were surprised
to find out than an American who lost his father in the World Trade
Center attack had signed an anti-war advertisement that accused the
USA itself of terrorism. The offending passage read, "We too watched
with shock the horrific events of September 11... we too mourned
the thousands of innocent dead and shook our heads at the terrible
scenes of carnage -- even as we recalled similar scenes in Baghdad,
Panama City, and a generation ago, Vietnam." With us now is Jeremy
Glick, whose father, Barry, was a Port Authority worker at the Trade
Center. Mr. Glick is a co-author of the book "Another World is Possible." I'm
surprised you signed this. You were the only one of all of the families
JEREMY GLICK, FATHER DIED IN WORLD TRADE CENTER: Well, actually,
that's not true.
O'REILLY: Who signed the advertisement?
GLICK: Peaceful Tomorrows, which represents 9/11 families, were
O'REILLY: Hold it, hold it, hold it, Jeremy. You're the only one
who signed this advertisement.
GLICK: As an individual.
O'REILLY: Yes, as -- with your name. You were the only one. I was
surprised, and the reason I was surprised is that this ad equates
the United States with the terrorists. And I was offended by that.
GLICK: Well, you say -- I remember earlier you said it was a moral
equivalency, and it's actually a material equivalency. And just to
back up for a second about your surprise, I'm actually shocked that
you're surprised. If you think about it, our current president, who
I feel and many feel is in this position illegitimately by neglecting
the voices of Afro- Americans in the Florida coup, which, actually,
somebody got impeached for during the Reconstruction period -- Our
current president now inherited a legacy from his father and inherited
a political legacy that's responsible for training militarily, economically,
and situating geopolitically the parties involved in the alleged
assassination and the murder of my father and countless of thousands
of others. So I don't see why it's surprising...
O'REILLY: All right. Now let me stop you here. So...
GLICK: ... for you to think that I would come back and want to support...
O'REILLY: It is surprising, and I'll tell you why. I'll tell you
why it's surprising.
GLICK: ... escalating...
O'REILLY: You are mouthing a far left position that is a marginal
position in this society, which you're entitled to.
GLICK: It's marginal -- right.
O'REILLY: You're entitled to it, all right, but you're -- you see,
even -- I'm sure your beliefs are sincere, but what upsets me is
I don't think your father would be approving of this.
GLICK: Well, actually, my father thought that Bush's presidency
O'REILLY: Maybe he did, but...
GLICK: I also didn't think that Bush...
O'REILLY: ... I don't think he'd be equating this country as a terrorist
nation as you are.
GLICK: Well, I wasn't saying that it was necessarily like that.
O'REILLY: Yes, you are. You signed...
GLICK: What I'm saying is...
O'REILLY: ... this, and that absolutely said that.
GLICK: ... is that in -- six months before the Soviet invasion in
Afghanistan, starting in the Carter administration and continuing
and escalating while Bush's father was head of the CIA, we recruited
a hundred thousand radical mujahadeens to combat a democratic government
in Afghanistan, the Turaki government.
O'REILLY: All right. I don't want to...
O'REILLY: I don't want to debate world politics with you.
GLICK: Well, why not? This is about world politics.
O'REILLY: Because, No. 1, I don't really care what you think.
GLICK: Well, OK.
O'REILLY: You're -- I want to...
GLICK: But you do care because you...
O'REILLY: No, no. Look...
GLICK: The reason why you care is because you evoke 9/11...
O'REILLY: Here's why I care.
GLICK: ... to rationalize...
O'REILLY: Here's why I care...
GLICK: Let me finish. You evoke 9/11 to rationalize everything from
domestic plunder to imperialistic aggression worldwide.
O'REILLY: OK. That's a bunch...
GLICK: You evoke sympathy with the 9/11 families.
O'REILLY: That's a bunch of crap. I've done more for the 9/11 families
by their own admission -- I've done more for them than you will ever
hope to do.
O'REILLY: So you keep your mouth shut when you sit here exploiting
GLICK: Well, you're not representing me. You're not representing
O'REILLY: And I'd never represent you. You know why?
O'REILLY: Because you have a warped view of this world and a warped
view of this country.
GLICK: Well, explain that. Let me give you an example of a parallel...
O'REILLY: No, I'm not going to debate this with you, all right.
GLICK: Well, let me give you an example of parallel experience.
On September 14...
O'REILLY: No, no. Here's -- here's the...
GLICK: On September 14...
O'REILLY: Here's the record.
O'REILLY: All right. You didn't support the action against Afghanistan
to remove the Taliban. You were against it, OK.
GLICK: Why would I want to brutalize and further punish the people
O'REILLY: Who killed your father!
GLICK: The people in Afghanistan...
O'REILLY: Who killed your father.
GLICK: ... didn't kill my father.
O'REILLY: Sure they did. The al Qaeda people were trained there.
GLICK: The al Qaeda people? What about the Afghan people?
O'REILLY: See, I'm more angry about it than you are!
GLICK: So what about George Bush?
O'REILLY: What about George Bush? He had nothing to do with it.
GLICK: The director -- senior as director of the CIA.
O'REILLY: He had nothing to do with it.
GLICK: So the people that trained a hundred thousand Mujahadeen
O'REILLY: Man, I hope your mom isn't watching this.
GLICK: Well, I hope she is.
O'REILLY: I hope your mother is not watching this because you --
that's it. I'm not going to say anymore.
O'REILLY: In respect for your father...
GLICK: On September 14, do you want to know what I'm doing?
O'REILLY: Shut up. Shut up.
GLICK: Oh, please don't tell me to shut up.
O'REILLY: As respect -- as respect -- in respect for your father,
who was a Port Authority worker, a fine American, who got killed
unnecessarily by barbarians...
GLICK: By radical extremists who were trained by this government...
O'REILLY: Out of respect for him...
GLICK: ... not the people of America.
O'REILLY: ... I'm not going to...
GLICK: ... The people of the ruling class, the small minority.
O'REILLY: Cut his mic. I'm not going to dress you down anymore,
out of respect for your father. We will be back in a moment with
more of THE FACTOR.
GLICK: That means we're done?
O'REILLY: We're done.
Fox News Network
SHOW: THE O'REILLY FACTOR (20:48)
February 5, 2003 Wednesday
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SECTION: News; Domestic
LENGTH: 1775 words
HEADLINE: Back of the Book
Interview With University of Maryland's Luke Jensen, "Most Ridiculous
Item of the Day," Viewer Mail
GUESTS: Luke Jensen
BYLINE: Bill O'Reilly
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Finally tonight, the mail.
Thousands of letters about Jeremy Glick, the war protester who lost
his father on 9/11. Mr. Glick thinks America is an evil place.
Sharon Leary, New Fairfield, Connecticut, "O'Reilly, I know you
were embarrassed by your guest, Mr. Glick, but no need to apologize.
His interview proved to me that some anti-war people are really ridiculous."
I'm glad you got something out of the interview, Ms. Leary, but
I'm sorry I gave the guy a forum to spout anti-American hatred.
Diane Alt, West Virginia, "Mr. O'Reilly, I watched in disgust as
you berated that young man. How dare you treat a guest like that?
Most intelligent people know how biased Fox News is."
Well, Ms. Alt, from your letter, I assume you are an idealogue with
a political axe to grind, just as Glick was, so I understand your
sympathy for him.
Eric Flynt, St. Louis, Missouri, "Bill, no matter what your guests'
opinions are, we watch to see them debated, not berated."
I'm sorry, Mr. Flynt. This is our house here. If somebody comes
to your house and begins spitting on the floor, you'd remove him.
Glick was out of control and spewing hatred for this program and
his country using vile propaganda. This is a no-spin zone, and wild
ravings will be shut down quick.
Cecil Stockton, San Diego, "Bill, I have a feeling you'll be catching
a lot of grief over the interview With Glick, but I understand your
outrage. His condemnation of America and his stated sympathy for
those who killed his father was truly appalling."
The mail ran 8 to 1 in my favor, Mr. Stockton. Took a lot more grief
over our NASA investigation.
P.J. Quigley, Moorhead, Minnesota, "Mr. O'Reilly, Fox News needs
to get you off the air. Glick was right when he said the USA helped
the Taliban. Shame on you for your treatment of him."
Well, Mr. Quigley, you are truly a moron if you believe that helping
people -- that helping the Afghan people defeat the Russians was
a bad thing and had anything to do with the murder on 9/11. I hope
you rethink your position, with all due respect.
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