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"When Protestors Attack"

The moment I saw Mahoney's charming-but-gutsy video (high/low) of this spring's New York protests, I knew I had to do something, too. Since I sent him my own protest photos, Mahoney and I have chatted a bit back-and-forth over the months. The following account is an outrageous (and probably rare) example of the worst of the pro-Palestine crowd. Mahoney is funny, but even-handed and subdued in his humour. Kudos to him for having the cool not to take Crackdown Squad's bait, as it sounds he would have gotten the crap kicked out of him and his friends:

I was now completely encircled. When I tried to escape, the protesters then started smacking the camera with their signs, while others were shoving me from different directions. I started retreating, pushing my way back from the loudspeaker, all the while leaving the camera running and asking the protesters why they weren't letting me film. Just when the scuffle between me and the protesters seemed like it was about to take a turn for the worse, I remembered that there were some cameras present from a few mainstream media outlets. I started yelling, "Why are you trying to censor me?" The idea was to attract the other cameras, thinking that the protesters would back off if their actions were captured by the news media. The gambit worked: we were soon surrounded by cameras...
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You guys need to check out his finished video. He just posted it this afternoon.

Moral Citizen: Jacques Vanderdreschd on Oct 20, 03 | 3:47 am | Profile
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RE: video - I was there on February 15th gathering.

Personally I take offense at the American Spectator, National Review and all the rest of em characterizing protests as unlawful gatherings of the stoned, insane and criminal.

I've read articles about all the stupid things said, or the stupid people there, and believe me there are - and plenty of people eager for change but expressing it in the wrong way - I saw a guy holding a sign "Drive Israel into the sea". But there were thousands of other signs and statements. I think the right - wing is has a real good time with character assasination of lefties, puting their comments out of context and pretending like they're just crazy.

For the record, Medea Benjamin got the shit kicked out of her at a Republican Fundraiser that she crashed in Fresno a year ago. Not that all Republicans would do that, of course.

The Freepers at a peace rally in Austin this year held signs that said "Bomb: Iraq first, then France, then you HIPPIES!" and other things quite equal in stupidity to anti-zionist statements that some ANSWER people might be carrying. The funny thing is, was that people were forming nice polite lines to them in order to have a discussion with them. The guy in front of me in line was studying to be a minister and wanted to have a word with these counter protesters real bad.

As for Pro-Israel (whether they are Jewish or not or Evangelicals pining for Armegeddon) folks being arseholes, I'm sure you could find quite a few around. Holding signs, saying stupid things, mostly to the 'choir'.

At just about any given time when congress is in session you'll find dozens of AIPAC Lobbyists on capitol hill making their rounds, as well.

Sorry, maybe not much of that had anything do do with the last part of your post, on the Palistinean divestment conference. They sounded like assholes.


I saw an Israeli and Palestinean families who had lost loved ones to the political violence speak a week ago in a Catholic church. The Israeli man, lost a 14 year old daughter in a suicide attack. He was a tank commander in the '68 war with Egypt, and minced no words when he said to the crowd that we have to petition our govenment to stop funding Israel's occupation. He said he was a Zionist, and that the answer to the bloodshed would be a 2 state solution. He said that the Israeli people are mostly deluded by their government, and quite ignorant of suffering of Palestineans. He mentioned the Oslo process as being something that the Palestineans could not possible accept, and was doomed from the beginning.

Sharing the stage with him was a Palestinean man who lost 2 brothers to Israeli snipers. Asked if he forgives those who shot them, he said no, of course not. But the people targeted are not the people who have done this to his brother. But their message was the same - the tit for tat revenge tactics of both sides are furthering the madness. Their aim in coming together in this group is to show the world that they who have lost loved ones can get together and talk. Why can't their leaders?

Posted by: evil-barry on Oct 17, 03 | 5:52 pm


While everything you say appears to make sense, I can't help but wonder if maybe you should move to Canada. You'd probably like it up there, with their commie health care and their degenerate gay unions and their free dope lifestyles. Any true American can see that there is a whole world of difference between Israelis killing Palestinians and Palestinians killing Israelis. DUH. As for leftist protesters ever being anything but the bunch of wussy yellow crazy drug-addicted hippie anarchist commie mutherf**kers we all know them to be...I can only say that you sir are deluded. Because that's precisely what they all are. Really.


Walter Lipman

Posted by: Slothrop on Oct 17, 03 | 6:31 pm

Ok Lipman.

Posted by: evil-barry on Oct 22, 03 | 9:33 pm

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